Episode 188

Take Two: Tough Conversations with Friends with Stephanie Thole

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Engaging conversations on race or sexuality is a hard, holy task.

As Christians, we don’t always do it well, even if our hearts are in the right place.

Are these conversations the same? How are they different? Can we advocate justice and unity without endorsing what is not God’s best?

Stephanie Thole entered into this conversation with extraordinary grace and kindness, and we are thrilled to listen in again.

Highlights

“We were one of the few black families. I remember always being so attracted to all of these white boys. In my mind, I was like, ‘I gotta get rid of this…’ I understood at a very early age that that was not allowed.” —Stephanie Thole

“I was very much aware at how different I was. That I was ‘other.’” —Stephanie Thole

“A lot of us have made mistakes, have had hard conversations, have offended the wrong person, and it’s been a painful, awkward experience. Don’t let that stop you. Keep walking.” —Stephanie Thole

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For more on this conversation, check out our friends Daniel Hill and Rebecca McLaughlin! They lend their voices well to these issues.

You can also listen to our interview with Rebecca McLaughlin here!

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