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Episode 229: Let’s Get a Proper Theology of Suffering | Kelly Kapic

November 8, 2024

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Episode 225: How to Stay Sane Through Another Political Cycle | Preston Sprinkle

September 13, 2024

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Episode 220: Two Approaches to Pride | Part 1 with Stephen Nylen

April 19, 2024

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Episode 218: How Not to Be Discouraged in a Discouraging Year with Derwin Gray

March 22, 2024

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Episode 216: From Christian Cult to Christ Follower with Christy Lynne Wood

February 23, 2024

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Episode 215: A Testimony of Surrendered Gender with Kyla Gillespie

February 9, 2024

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Episode 214: What is Uniquely Hard and Hopeful for Married People Now? With Chris Bruno and Tracy Johnson

January 26, 2024

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Courageous Pastors: The East Coast with Aaron Henning

November 17, 2023

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Courageous Pastors: The West Coast with Tom Kang

November 3, 2023

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Courageous Pastors: The South with Josh Laxton

October 20, 2023

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How to Talk With the Kids About Marriage with Sam Allberry

October 6, 2023

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Season 6 Wrap and Q & A Part 2 with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

July 14, 2023

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Q & A: Kids, Libraries, and the Pros & Cons of Coming Out with Laurie, Matt, and Steve

June 30, 2023

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What Comes Next? with Matt, Laurie, and Steve

December 18, 2021

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First Steps After Discovering They Cheated with Johnny & Amanda McKenna

December 11, 2021

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The Church Wasn’t Always So Bad at the LGBTQ Conversation with Greg Johnson

December 4, 2021

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How to Discover Your Identity with Bonnie Gray

November 13, 2021

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How to be Emotionally Healthy with Pete Scazzero

November 6, 2021

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Which of the Six Types Are You? with Dan Allender & Cathy Loerzel

October 23, 2021

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What God Has to Say about Our Bodies with Sam Allberry

October 15, 2021

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What Do You Want? With Curt Thompson

October 9, 2021

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How to Love Scripture with Tara Leigh Cobble

October 1, 2021

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Helping Kids Navigate a Porn-Saturated World with Josh Glaser & Daniel Weiss

September 17, 2021

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Three Types of Shame and Why They Matter with Matt Krieg

September 3, 2021

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Take Two: Tough Conversations with Friends with Stephanie Thole

August 27, 2021

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Take Two: Seeing Friends as Siblings with Rachel Gilson

August 20, 2021

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Take Two: Broken + Beloved Pastors with Brad Klaver

August 14, 2021

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Take Two: Broken + Beloved Pastors with Johnny and Amanda McKenna

August 6, 2021

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Episode 99 Take Two: A Gender Conversation with Heather Skriba

July 24, 2021

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Take Two: How to Lament with Mark Vroegop

July 9, 2021

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Take Two: Exploring Our Souls of Shame with Curt Thompson

July 2, 2021

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Love is Love and Other Arguments with Rebecca McLaughlin

June 12, 2021

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Helping Kids to Hear God with Dr. Michelle Anthony

May 28, 2021

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Tov vs. Toxicity in the Church with Scot McKnight & Laura Barringer

May 21, 2021

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Friends–Finding, Keeping, and Loving Them with Julie Fisk & Kendra Roehl

May 7, 2021

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All the “Easy” Convos: Feminism, Gender Roles, and Complementarianism with Phylicia Masonheimer

April 30, 2021

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How to Biblically Engage the Trans* Conversation with Dr. Preston Sprinkle

April 23, 2021

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The Basics of Engaging Racial Divides with Daniel Hill

April 9, 2021

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The Family Garden with Crystal Paine

March 19, 2021

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Gen Z’s Sex, Marriage, and Singleness Questions with Sean McDowell

January 23, 2021

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How to Respond to Your 2020 Enemies with Scott Sauls

December 4, 2020

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About Jeremiah 29:11…with Megan Fate Marshman

September 18, 2020

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Lifting Loneliness in a Pandemic with Jason Gaboury

August 28, 2020

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The Gospel (&) Voting with Michael Wear

August 21, 2020

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Start Where You Are with Rashawn Copeland

August 14, 2020

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The Problems with Polyamory with Dr. Branson Parler

April 24, 2020

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When You are Suffering as a Leader with Ruth Haley Barton

February 14, 2020

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Something Needs to Change with David Platt

January 17, 2020

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Leading a Church in a Time of Sexual Questioning with Bruce Miller

May 24, 2019

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Dear Evangelical Pastor with Mike Rosebush

April 19, 2019

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The Need to Be Seen with John Wilson and Jeff Maness

March 15, 2019

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Walking Well as Pastors, Parents, and Therapists with Dr. Mark Yarhouse

November 30, 2018

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Envy, Pride, and Leadership with Adam Barr

May 30, 2018

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Concern and Hope for the Church with Matthew Tuininga

December 1, 2017

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Pillar Practices with Marvin Williams

October 6, 2017

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Pillar People with David Beelen

September 29, 2017

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That Hole in My Heart with Matt, Laurie, and Steve

September 4, 2017

How do you answer questions like: “Why can’t my female friend who is in love with her female best friend be able to get married biblically?” 

I believe this question stems from what we believe is our life’s purpose.

The world can say the purpose of our lives is: “To have a family, find our person, get a nice car, nice house, have my own practice, be happy…stuff like that.” (Adapted from Christian Smith’s survey of 3,290 young adults in Lost in Transition: The Dark Side of Emerging Adulthood, pg. 93.)

The Church can say the purpose of our lives is: “To marry a good Christian, get a good job, make Christian babies, tithe and die. Oh, and something about glorifying God…”

What happens when we encounter questions about marrying someone of the same sex with this worldview?  

“Oh, sure, your goal is to find a spouse–but not that gender!”

Friends? We need to repent and pivot to a kingdom-oriented purpose. How?

Here is how I am teaching my young kids…

Kids, bemoaning: “Why do we have to go to school??” 

Me, swallows this easy response: “So you can get a good job and be a functioning citizen…” 

Says instead: ““You have to go because God has a special job for you to fulfill the big purpose of your life and everyone’s life. Do you know what that is?”

Kids: “Uh, nope.”

Me: “Remember how God made the world and then Adam and Eve sinned, and now we have darkness in the world?”

Kids: “I am so mad at them for doing that!”

Me: “Yeah…it stinks. BUT! God has given you a special gift and task to push back the darkness and usher in the light.” [AKA: To advance the kingdom of God.]

Kids: *Eyes widen*

Kids: “So, you have to go to school to learn how do to the special job God has for you to push back the darkness and usher in the light.“

Kids: “Huh. Ok.”

It’s easier to say to the kids we disciple, “Please, grow up nicely so you can get a good job and get married so I can stop worrying about you and finally rest!” 

But that’s not a gospel-mindset. It’s worldly. And when people come to us asking for our blessing on their same-sex marriages when we have such a just-get-married-and-get-a-good-job worldview, we are already argumentatively in the negative.

Before we encourage toward God’s design for marriage we must live out God’s purpose of our one lives:

We are to push back the darkness and usher in the light. We are to advance the Kingdom of God.

How can we walk well alongside our LGBT+ friends?

Let’s talk basics, big picture, and of course, the heart.

Thank you to Pacific Parable for hosting and filming!

  1. See Brokenness Everywhere
  2. Know it’s About the Heart
  3. Know Why You Believe What You Believe
  4. Speak the Language
  5. Earn Relational Currency
  6. Spend Relational Currency

To read more on this topic, check out this article Laurie wrote for The Banner magazine.

To hear Laurie’s story, and to learn the number one way you can advocate for God’s design for marriage? Check it out here:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, guys!

Here are some of our favorite resources God empowered us to produce (with some awesome folks) this year!

 

10. BLOG Post: Temptation in a Pandemic: 5 Tools I’m Using

The pandemic hit and temptation skyrocketed for many (with things like porn use increasing over 11% globally). How can we stop staring at the temptation and dive into our hearts?

 

9. WEBINAR: Lament 1.0 and Lament 2.0 

We are often asked how to do the lament process we lay out in our Impossible Marriage book or the Journey Well StudyThese two trainings take written things to real life.

 

8. STUDY: Journey Well Study: Explore Your Deepest Needs and How to Meet Them

This one wasn’t created this year, but it continues to impact people wanting to dig deep into Core Needs and more–whatever their versions of brokenness. This study is ideally done with a friend or mentor so you can process together.

 

7. JAVA with Juli: When Staying Married Feels Impossible

This was one of our first interviews for our book. Juli asked the questions many asked us later–but she got the first, raw responses. Hear them here!

 

6.  RELEVANT Magazine: Stop Giving This Relationship Advice

I mean, please? Can we stop? <3

 

5.  THE BANNER: How to Walk Well Alongside LGBT+ People

When I was asked to write this, I asked the editors: “Are you ready for the backlash?” They were. They got some. But people and lives were also deeply impacted. Thanks for caring, guys.

 

4.  HIMH Podcast: Tough Conversations with Friends with Stephanie TholeDefining Stress and Success with John Mark Comer

If we are pro-racial equity, must we also be pro-same-sex marriage? Stephanie Thole helps us out. And let’s do some real talk about many of our drivenness to perform with the real deal: John Mark Comer. These episodes were two of our many favorites on the Hole in My Heart Podcast.

 

3. WORKSHOP: Impossible Marriage Workshop 

After finishing this digital workshop, we hope you are inspired to do two things:

  1. Live the Metaphor: Married people will no longer dully recite “God’s design for marriage,” but will joyfully preach the gospel through their marriages.
  2. Cultivate Oneness: We want every married couple to understand that seeking marital oneness is not seeking better and more frequent sex, rather oneness is holistic union reflecting God’s union with us. Beyond knowing this cognitively, we will give married people the tools they need to cultivate oneness in areas that are thriving, and to increase oneness in areas that need more care.

All of the above is impossible without Jesus Christ. With Him, however? All marital impossibilities are possible. (We are, of course, not speaking of issues related to abuse. Those are justice issues that must be resolved with swift, God-empowered justice.)

 

2. PACIFIC Parable: The Number One Way You Can Advocate for God’s Design for Marriage

Our friends at Pacific Parable rocked this conversational talk. Thanks for letting us be a part of it!

 

1. BOOK: Impossible Marriage

What is the real-life purpose of marriage? What is the real-life purpose of sex in marriage? Can God work through our seemingly impossible marital situations–including addiction, childhood trauma memories, and lack of spousal attraction?

We believe in God’s work through this book so much…so, here it is. Praise Jesus and thank you to the team around us who made it happen.

 

That’s it! We honestly love and put so much into everything we do, and we would love to hear from you:

If you saw us take part in a project this year, what would you throw onto this list as a helpful resource?